Several line up for Supreme Court seats
WASHINGTON - The most expensive ticket to "The Book of Mormon" on Broadway: $477. The face value of a great seat for this year's Super Bowl: $1,250. Guaranteed seats to watch the U.S. Supreme Court hear this week's gay marriage cases: about $6,000.
Tickets to the two arguments that begin today are technically free. But getting them requires lining up days or hours ahead, or paying someone else to. The first people got in line Thursday, bringing the price of saving a seat to around $6,000.
For some, putting a value on the seats is meaningless.
"It's just not possible," said Fred Sainz a spokesman for the Human Rights Campaign, the nation's largest gay rights organization, which began employing two people to stand in line Thursday.
The court will hear arguments Tuesday over California's ban on same-sex marriage. On Wednesday, the court will take up the federal Defense of Marriage Act, the 1996 federal law that defines marriage as between one man and one woman. Supporters and opponents of same-sex marriage say the cases are so potentially historic that they want to be inside the courtroom to watch, no matter what the cost in time or money.
Part of the reason the seats are so coveted is the court doesn't allow TV broadcasts. The court has said it will release transcripts of the hearings and audio recordings roughly two hours after each case ends, but advocates say that's no substitute for being there.
Seats, meanwhile, are at a premium. The courtroom seats about 500 people, but seats are reserved for staff, journalists and guests of the justices and lawyers arguing the case. After those people are seated, there will be about 100 seats today for lawyers who are members of the Supreme Court bar and at least 60 seats for the general public. An additional 30 seats for the public will rotate every three to five minutes.
For the most controversial cases, the line to get those tickets can start to form about a day before. When the court heard three days of arguments on health care last year, the first people arrived three days early.
This time, the line started even earlier. By Monday morning, there were more than three dozen people waiting, even as snow was falling. Several in the line said they were being paid while others included college students and a substitute teacher. People in line said they passed the time talking and reading.
Donna Clarke, 62, of Mountain View, Calif., arrived Sunday night and was 37th in line. The Army veteran who has been with her partner for 27 years had intended to just be part of a planned demonstration outside the court today, but she decided to join the line when she realized it might be possible to get inside.
"I think there'll be a lot of my friends who will be very jealous," Clarke said.
Most of the people waiting in line are supporters of gay marriage. But opponents, too, said they intend to be at the court.
Ken Klukowski, a lawyer at the Family Research Council and a professor at Liberty University School of Law in Virginia, says these cases are "not just major, not just blockbuster, but historic."
Klukowski said he expects to be getting up in the middle of the night to get in the separate line for members of the Supreme Court bar.
"No one knows how early but ridiculously early," Klukowski said.
For those willing to pay to get in, several Washington services will hold a person's place in line. One company charges $36 per hour, another $50, meaning the cost of a 5-day line stander comes in at $6,000. John Winslow, the operations manager of Linestanding.com, which like most other line standing services is also a courier service, said his service would be holding places for 40 to 50 clients, a number of them lawyers. His group held about 35 places in line for the health care arguments last year, he said. Most people, he said, are starting their line stander 24 hours before, so they'll spend $864 to attend.
Linestanding.com's owner, Mark Gross, said for many of his clients, attending is personal.
"Health care was more about public policy and the direction that the country was going politically," Gross said. "But this really affects people in a personal way,"
Kate Kendell, the executive director of the National Center for Lesbian Rights in California, contacted Linestanding.com three weeks before the argument to secure her space. Kendell, a lawyer, said she tried to get into a Supreme Court case that involved gay rights in 1995. By the time she arrived at 3 a.m. on the day of the argument, she said, there were so many people she could only get in a line that allows people to watch three minutes of the argument. This time, she isn't taking any chances.
"This is one of those experiences that I want to see firsthand. I want to see the faces of the justices. I want to hear their questions," she said.
She initially planned for her line stander to start at 4 a.m. today but has since moved the time up twice.
"All I care about is being in that courtroom, and I'm pretty much willing to do whatever I have to do," Kendell said.